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pismocycleguy
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I am attempting to do more of the maintenance of my DL650 on my own. I went to change the oil and noticed that the Suzuki 16510-03G00-X07 oil filter does not seem to have a place for a bolt on the end like the K&N that my mechanic put on last time he changed the oil. Am I missing something? When I bought the filter at the Suzuki shop I asked the parts guy if it was the right filter because I remember there being a bolt in the description of how to change the oil filter in the service manual. We checked the number that I gave him, which came from the recommended list on this thread, with the number on the new filter and they matched. Can someone offer a neophyte some help? Thanks.
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ttownvstrom
08/14/06 2151 Hours
Posts: 111
DL 650 K6
Tulsa, Oklahoma
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The stock Suzuki oil filter dosn't have a nut on the end of the filter. You have to use a filter wrench or a strap or by hand if your lucky.
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bullstrom
07/03/07 2355 Hours
Posts: 36
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Carson, CA
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Try by hand first. After that I will use Channel locks. Use enough pressure to get the jaws to bite and then turn. When you put the new filter on make sure to put a little oil on the seal. You are going to dispose of the filter so a few scratches or dents from channel locks should not be a problem.
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johnofchar
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Try by hand first. After that I will use Channel locks. Use enough pressure to get the jaws to bite and then turn. When you put the new filter on make sure to put a little oil on the seal. You are going to dispose of the filter so a few scratches or dents from channel locks should not be a problem.
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johnofchar
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I've recently had experience with 2 of the filters listed in the top post. They are both marked as 'to small for OEM filter wrench' & have no bolt end.
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greywolf
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01/31/06 0643 Hours
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DL650AK7
Evanston IL USA
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I've used the Purolator and NAPA/Wix filters. They don't fit the OEM wrench either but they have O-rings designed for 3/4 turn installation. They, unlike the Suzuki filter, can be installed by hand and removed with channel locks.
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pismocycleguy
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I've used the Purolator and NAPA/Wix filters. They don't fit the OEM wrench either but they have O-rings designed for 3/4 turn installation. They, unlike the Suzuki filter, can be installed by hand and removed with channel locks.
Pat What about the HifloFiltro? Two full turns after seating, or 3/4 turn after seating? 
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WINDSHIELDS: OEM, Suzuki Tall, Rifle (3 versions), Zero Gravity, Givi, MRA Vario, CalSci, Cee Bailey (2 versions), Puig, PowerBronze, Terry's Okla., Madstad, MP Cycle Design Touring, Sport and Mini
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greywolf
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Evanston IL USA
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Pat What about the HifloFiltro? Two full turns after seating, or 3/4 turn after seating? I've never used one. Most filters have the information printed right on them. |
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bullstrom
07/03/07 2355 Hours
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And how do you tighten the OEM filter the recommended 2 full turns?
I don't use the OEM oil filter. I tighten by hand. I don't like filling my toolbox with specialized tools that work for only one vehicle that I own so I just hand tighten one and half turns. Never had any leaks. |
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johnofchar
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If it has a round seal (o-ring) tighten 3/4 turn, if flat like OEM then 2 turns.
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greywolf
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There is one that has a smaller than OEM round cross section O-ring that takes 3/4 turn, the Purolator I think.
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Rick
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11/20/03 0446 Hours
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Have you guys read this http://motorcycleinfo.calsci.com/FilterStudy.html? It's pretty good. For the Suzuki, use OEM only. I haven't studied oil filters but tend to agree with the guy. He seems to be a pretty straight shooter when it comes to the stuff he writes. I met and rode with him several years ago - he rides in shorts and sandals. I don't know what to say except he didn't crash... His articles make more sense than his riding gear choices. |
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VTROOPER
09/06/07 1838 Hours
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do you know if any of the bmw filters could be used on the 1000?  ? |
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greywolf
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do you know if any of the bmw filters could be used on the 1000? ? Why would you want to find a way to spend more for a filter? Also, I had a BMW filter on an R90S disintegrate early in its supposed life span and had to have the bottom end bearing shells replaced because of it. Anyhow, the answer is no. The Fram filter for Stroms is the PH6018. Fram's chart of motorcycle filters for BMWs at http://www.fram.com/pdf/Motorcycle.pdf does not include that part number. |
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do you know if any of the bmw filters could be used on the 1000? I understood your question, did you? German filter for the 1000 is Mann, code MW 65. But don't hurry to buy it -- see if anyone has disassembled it first [edit]joking |
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VTROOPER
09/06/07 1838 Hours
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the reason i asked is, ive just started a new job @ a bmw shop!!!!!!! thanks anyway.
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greywolf
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the reason i asked is, ive just started a new job @ a bmw shop!!!!!!! thanks anyway.
Now that's a good reason. Sorry it won't be a benefit. |
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grebmrof
05/31/09 1057 Hours
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Have you guys read this http://motorcycleinfo.calsci.com/FilterStudy.html? It's pretty good. For the Suzuki, use OEM only. I haven't studied oil filters but tend to agree with the guy. He seems to be a pretty straight shooter when it comes to the stuff he writes. I met and rode with him several years ago - he rides in shorts and sandals. I don't know what to say except he didn't crash... His articles make more sense than his riding gear choices. If you read what the guy's comments are about the Suzuki OEM filter, he says: "A slightly better than average filter at a super-premium price." That doesn't exactly sound like a ringing endorsement. There is another on his listing that sounded pretty good - the Emgo 10-55660 which he says is a "Good alternative to OEM", for $6 or less. My dealer was selling the Suz for $10+ which struck me as a few bucks too much. Tom |
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