Did You Check your airfilter gasket . . . ?

[johnofchar]

Gasket goes under filter. Apply a bit of silicone grease to the front of the air horn so it will slide on the frame better. Fit the gasket and filter into the airbox & then you need to apply forward and then down pressure to fit the top.

[Chris Graves]

Thanks John.  I'll try that tomorrow as I can't face going back in to the garage today, I'm going to relax for the rest of the day.

[Preload]

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johnofchar wrote on 19.10.2008 13:32[/i] Gasket goes under filter.

So there are differences for the filter gasket fitment between models too
 
When I removed mine (650) to do the TBS set up, I remember the gasket fitting around the edge of the filter. A bit like the rubber trim you might fit around a wiindshield edge. So that it was between both the upper and lower air filter housing.

[greywolf]

Would you believe the filter elements have different part numbers but the gaskets have the same part number? That's what the fiche indicates. I can't imagine that gasket fitting any other way than around the edge though.

[johnofchar]

I'm sure you guys are right, been a long time since I had a stock filter.  

[Chris Graves]

Halle-bloody-lujah! The air filter and the gasket are in place.  Everything is back together and I've just took the bike round the block for 10 miles and everything works.

Thanks for the silicon grease tip John, didn't have any but I liberally squirted it with silicon lubricant and that seem to help things along.

Thanks Mark for pointing out that your gasket went around the edge of your filter, mine does too now.

As Greywolf said "can't imagine it fitting any other way" nor can I now.  Just needed to think outside the box (or air box).  I was putting too much on my interpretation of Alpha Suzki's fiche.  

Of course if the so called professional spanner men hadn't left it out I wouldn't had this aggravation.

Still I can now add changing air filters to my growing list of accomplishments

[Columbo]

There are several threads on air filters, so I supposed I could post on any of them and get a response. There was too much for me to read, so I'm posting.

At 13,000 miles, I'm ready to do the valve adjustment.  The bike has been running fine, even with the original stock air filter and spark plugs. Seemed to be using a bit more oil since new, and the oil has been getting dirty quicker than it used to, but that thread said that it was normal.  See below.....

I was MAJORLY disappointed to find dirt in the throttle bodies and on the secondary throttle plates!!  WTF?  This has never been apart before. The air filter gasket is seated all the way around the perimeter of the air filter.  It looks as though the dirt got past the front edge of the gasket though.  Is this normal??  Too late to blame anybody about it.  I guess some sealer along the edge is the only way to fix the problem.  It's just WRONG to find this sort of thing!!!  

[Peter]

Are you saying you haven't cleaned the air filter once in 13.000 miles?

[TravellingStrom]

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Compared To What wrote on 29.05.2008 12:50[/i] Bumping for TravellingStrom and anyone that hasn't checked!

Hi CTW

I was travelling at the time I saw this post and then ran out of time at the cafe, so I forgot to reply.  I then could not remember what the thread was next time, sorry.

Anyway, I did not check my gasket as a direct result of Peters thread, in fact I am unsure whether I even saw the thread.  I have voted now.

What I can say though, my idiot dealer installed a new filter at the 18,000km service and threw the old one away with the gasket.  

I was then doing my own services and did a few air filter cleans and did not notice it was missing!!!

This of course meant when I went bush into the Red Center of Australia I picked up a lot of very fine red bulldust, this is what the airbox looked like.  Note, I always spray WD40 inside the airbox to catch dust that gets in, as you can see, it does get in, including some bugs!


This eventually led my bike to start using a lot of oil, burning it but no smoke, you can smell it out the exhaust.

This engine was thoroughly dusted and is the direct cause of my having to get a new bike, I traded the old one in  As the original workshop had a new owner, but still the same mechanic, I tried to no avail to get some satisfaction and it was not worth the effort of pursuing via small claims.  I will never deal with them again and will tell anyone who cares to listen the reason why.

Needless to say, I checked this one as soon as I got it home and it was all good.  Here is a link to my original thread on the subject.

Can Peter maybe repost his link for his original thread somewhere here?  Also there are images on pages 2+3 of this thread which are not available, maybe these could be fixed?

Cheers
TravellingStrom

[Peter]

You are welcome.

Slightly Dirty Intakes

[TravellingStrom]

Thanks


I think I may have read it, but yours was in no way as dirty as mine.  But, you don't get the red dust like we do down here, which you managed to get some real personal experince with apparently when you were down here, but on a GS.

Cheers
TS

[Peter]

The red dust is terrible, the most 'sticky' stuff I ever experienced. Believe it or not, there is still some all over the corners of my GS, almost a year later!

With the amount of red dust you had in your air box, it would have been interesting to see how your intakes looked like.

There was far not as much dirt in my air box, but intakes were pretty filthy. Considering it was collected over several 1000 km it sure was an overreaction on my side, expressing the disappointment I felt. I had a lot of issues with my Strom and managed to solve them all over the years. And then this.

[Columbo]

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Peter wrote on 23.01.2009 20:00[/i] Are you saying you haven't cleaned the air filter once in 13.000 miles?

Yes, that's right.  But I've only been on paved roads and mostly clean mountain air or beach areas.  Filter has some bugs on it.  I could take a picture.  The airbox and throttle bodies are NOWHERE near as dirty as the pictures posted here though.  But there was leakage on a factory installed filter none-the-less.  

[johnofchar]

Sometimes the front of the filter & airbox cover is very hard to fit correctly. A little silicone grease on the air intake where it goes against the frame will help.  Also a little silicone grease around the filter gasket in front is good as well.

[gramps]

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There are several threads on air filters, so I supposed I could post on any of them and get a response. There was too much for me to read, so I'm posting. At 13,000 miles, I'm ready to do the valve adjustment.  The bike has been running fine, even with the original stock air filter and spark plugs. Seemed to be using a bit more oil since new, and the oil has been getting dirty quicker than it used to, but that thread said that it was normal.  See below..... I was MAJORLY disappointed to find dirt in the throttle bodies and on the secondary throttle plates!!  WTF?  This has never been apart before. The air filter gasket is seated all the way around the perimeter of the air filter.  It looks as though the dirt got past the front edge of the gasket though.  Is this normal??  Too late to blame anybody about it.  I guess some sealer along the edge is the only way to fix the problem.  It's just WRONG to find this sort of thing!!!

Don't have a 1000, but my 650 was doing something similar.  I did tests with the whole airbox off the bike, and noted that on my particular airbox. the front seam didn't squeeze the gasket as well as it did in all the other parts of the box, and that the bottom half of the airbox was bowed in slightly so even less of the gasket was in contact with its sealing surface.

I solved the problem to my satisfaction by using silicone sealant along the front edge of the gasket.

[robbielg]

After reading this thread i checked my wee stroms air filter for the first time yesterday. I was happy to find out that the airbox was very very clean, hardly any dirt went past the filter. There were a lot of bugs on one side of the filter. My dl650 has more than 9300 kms. The thick rubber gasket seemed to be seated perfectly.

I had a bit of a problem removing the tank and spilled a lot of gas. I assumed that the fuel pump would stop the fuel from draining from the tank,.. it didn't!  The manual just said to pull the fuel hose off and didnt mention to plug the metal fuel tube or drain the tank before pulling the fuel line from the tank.

The plastic part connecting the fuel hose to the metal tube on the fuel pump was also tricky for me. This small grey plastic part has two slots that have to mate with the ring around the metal tube and it has two tabs that mate with the big slots on the fuel hose.

How did you guys remove your tank without spilling gas ?

[johnofchar]

Somethings wrong with your pump, guess the check valve not working. Shouldn't get more than a few drops when line is taken off.

http://11109.rapidforum.com/topic=120368222311

[robbielg]

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johnofchar wrote on 28.01.2009 21:15[/i] Somethings wrong with your pump, guess the check valve not working. Shouldn't get more than a few drops when line is taken off. http://11109.rapidforum.com/topic=120368222311

Oh ok thanks.  I thought so. The pump on my wee was replaced by the seller before i could ride it home a year ago when i bought the bike. Bike had zero kms.
Does anyone know how i might fix this check valve?

The way my bike is now, if the fuel hose pops off or is torn without my knowledge , all the fuel will drain from the tank . This has happened already but i managed to pop the fuel hose back on before most of the fuel was drained. My bike and me still smell of gas up to now. This happened 2 days ago.

[johnofchar]

Not knowing what year your wee is, it's hard to say. Probably ebay for a low mileage pump assembly.

[robbielg]

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johnofchar wrote on 29.01.2009 01:48[/i] Not knowing what year your wee is, it's hard to say. Probably ebay for a low mileage pump assembly.

Thank you. My wee most probably is a 2005 model because the manual that came with it says K5 on the back cover.

[johnofchar]

Then you could use the 05 & up DL1000 pump assembily as well.

The tenth digit position in your VIN is the year digit.

[robbielg]

Thank you for the information  

[Columbo]

I just bought a new air filter from the dealer, part number 13780-06G00 and it did NOT come with the gasket. Box was taped shut on both ends. Saved the old one.

[Donunder]

Me too. Same part number.
My original filter was very dirty around the front and there was evidence of dirt leaking under the filter, which was loose. No gasket was fitted.
I asked the parts guy if a gasket was required and he said not for my model, even when I mentioned the loose fitting, and the indentation that looked like it was meant to hold a gasket.
When I went to fit the new one it felt loose too, so I've made up a foam sealer and fixed it in place with some silicon grease. Cross fingers!
What's the answer? Should there be a gasket available for a K6 Vee?

[Peter]

13746-06G00 . GASKET
13780-06G00 . FILTER, AIR CLEANER

[Donunder]

Thanks Peter.
I'll get onto it.

[TravellingStrom]

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Donunder wrote on 13.02.2009 10:03[/i] Me too. Same part number. My original filter was very dirty around the front and there was evidence of dirt leaking under the filter, which was loose. No gasket was fitted. I asked the parts guy if a gasket was required and he said not for my model, even when I mentioned the loose fitting, and the indentation that looked like it was meant to hold a gasket. When I went to fit the new one it felt loose too, so I've made up a foam sealer and fixed it in place with some silicon grease. Cross fingers! What's the answer? Should there be a gasket available for a K6 Vee?

Hey there Donunder, which mechanic shop did you use?  Surely not a Suzuki shop?

TS

[Donunder]

Hi TS.
You guessed it!
Pity there's only the one place to source genuine Suzuki parts in Brisbane.
Anyway, armed with Peter's advice I'll go back there and do battle with the twit in Parts.
Are you back home?

Don.

[TravellingStrom]

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Donunder wrote on 13.02.2009 11:16[/i] Hi TS. You guessed it! Pity there's only the one place to source genuine Suzuki parts in Brisbane. Anyway, armed with Peter's advice I'll go back there and do battle with the twit in Parts. Are you back home? Don.

Dumb people around.  Get your info here

Yep, I got back from Ingham last night at 10.30pm, after a marathon 14 hour drive south.  I posted a couple of pictures in the Aussie bushfire thread .

Cheers
TS

[Peter]

Suzuki workshops seem to be pretty similar everywhere.

In the end I did use a workshop which repairs Audi cars. Actually I worked together with the mechanic, that was a great arrangement I had with them. I agreed to pay for the normal 'car' rate. That is still 100x better than finding the bike every time a little more serviced kaputt.