Did You Check your airfilter gasket . . . ?

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Did You Check it?
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As a direct result of Peter's "Dirty Intake" thread did you check your filter/gasket?	Yes, it's OKYes, it was missing or mis-alignedNo I didn'tNo, but I'm going toI trust my dealer to "Do it right"Filter, what filter?

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Answers to 'As a direct result of Peter's "Dirty Intake" thread did you check your filter/gasket?':
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Yes, it's OK: 109
Yes, it was missing or mis-aligned: 13
No I didn't: 39
No, but I'm going to: 38
I trust my dealer to "Do it right": 3
Filter, what filter?: 18

[RubberDown]

My filter is still the original with only a little over 5k on the clock so I haven't replaced it yet.  I did a UOA on my bike before I put it away for the winter though and it showed high silicone indicating that the filter might not be doing it's job.  I have a new filter ready to go in so once I get the courage up to remove the tank I will replace it.

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140 views and 18 votes. . . . .Hmmmmmmmm

Come on "guys", don't be shy
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Inquiring minds wanna know

[Anonymous]

Is this just another liter bike issue  

I voted fro cryin' out loud  

What up RD??


C2W how ya dooin?

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dan-c wrote on 24.02.2006 11:32[/i] C2W how ya dooin?

Morning Dan. . .

Up and taking nourishment. . . . .

Looks like we're gonna get some liquid sushine this weekend, perfect to continue "polishing" my "used to infrequently" rain riding skills (or lack of therein)

[Redbeard]

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Compared To What wrote on 24.02.2006 14:21[/i] 61 views and 10 votes. . . . .Hmmmmmmmm Come on "guys", don't be shy! Inquiring minds wanna know

OK - OK, as soon as I get mine, I'll look at it  

Bob S.

[PLO231]

Sure engough, I removed the tank again to check if I installed the gasket and it was missing.  
I had just replaced my filter a few days back but did not ride.  I still had my old filter in the trash can, so i was able to remove the gasket from the old filter and install it on the new filter.  
It's a good thing that I have this outstanding forum to reference.  
Sean

[onoffroad]

With the number of times I have had the air box off to re-seat the throttle body boots I know mine is alright.  
 
Jeff

[Peter]

I was reading the reports, which were mainly from US about shop monkeys, and better doing everything yourself.

I thought that some of that is exaggerated, possibly out of frustration, possibly because of an isolated bad workshop experience. Now I know that it is not so.

I am constantly since 4 years running after my bike and watching and checking what they are doing, partially cleaning up the mess they did. My last bike's engine was serviced kaputt within 56,000 miles (it had miles odo), and that was a bike whichs engine is famous for being unable to go kaputt, the PC800.

The labour prices are low here, so it is tempting to just leave it with some workshop for service. And admittely I am less interested to do oil changes and such. Plus, I thought that I had the best or one of the best workshops working for me. Yes, the others are even lower standard.

Overall seen, they are taking my money and give me more work than I had without them. In the future I will do everything myself again, even though I do have the money to pay for certain conveniences.

I am stunned about the standard that is in the motorcycle industry.

[dbl_aitch]

I've had the same problem. It's easy to have it happen, even if you do your own work. What happens, near as I can tell, is that if you put the filter in first, then put the cover on, the cover hits the steering head, hits the edge of the gasket, and rolls it off the filter. If you put them in at the same time, it works much better. Still not an ideal system, hence my use of Rim Grease.

HH

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Come on guys. . . . 173 "looks" and a measly 23 "members" have taken the poll  

[Anonymous]

CTW,

I've "looked" about 7 or 8 times, every time a new post came up.  I only voted once.

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Thankyouverymuch...............Even so you'd think that more of our "grand and glorious membership" would chime in and/or vote!    

[Peter]

We have around 300 active members, that means members who at least do posting once in a while, by regular. But we have a very high number of viewers, including from Germany, Netherlands, etc.

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232 views but only 29 votes. . . . .Come on "guys", don't be shy!

Inquiring minds wanna know  

[ferdo]

I tried to change my vote from: 'No, but I'm going to' into: 'Yes, it's ok'.

But the software says I'm cheating.

Luckilly the gasket is present in my airbox!

[Anonymous]

I did not check because I know that everything is perfect here as I already had the problem when I moved back from a few kilometers with a K&N.
I opened up everything, moved the OEM filter back in (forgetting the gasket)
assembling everything and then starting the engine again. Fortunately on my Strom one could hear that something was weird with the engine sound. The mechanic explained
and I opened everything up again.

I can not do much on my Strom but I am expert on stripping and reassembling the bike
up to the air filter.

Toaddie

[pismocycleguy]

Good for you Toaddie. Nice to see a guy take charge of his bike and not count on some other person to get things right. If you count on a third party to make sure your bike is safe and correctly put together you could be making a big mistake, unless your "MOTHER" is your wrench!
PCG

[Peter]

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ferdo wrote on 26.02.2006 06:49[/i] I tried to change my vote from: 'No, but I'm going to' into: 'Yes, it's ok'. But the software says I'm cheating. Luckilly the gasket is present in my airbox!

If you just checked, I think you should leave at  'No, but I'm going to'. That was correct then.

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311 views but only 37 votes. . . . .Come on "guys", don't be shy!

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[Anonymous]

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dbl_aitch wrote on 24.02.2006 17:48[/i] I've had the same problem. It's easy to have it happen, even if you do your own work. What happens, near as I can tell, is that if you put the filter in first, then put the cover on, the cover hits the steering head, hits the edge of the gasket, and rolls it off the filter. If you put them in at the same time, it works much better. Still not an ideal system, hence my use of Rim Grease. HH

I did this a few days ago when I changed my filter. I tried filter 1st then cover, removed cover to find gasket slightly skewed but probably ait tight 2 out of 3 times. Thanks to the design there is no way to verify the gasket has seated right without removing the cover, and the inlet duct requires me to apply forward pressure in order to mount the cover straight down with no lateral movement on gasket, near impossible.

Then I tried cover and filter together and got 3 out of 3 seats good. So much for the manual.

I did my first TBS at around 200 miles and took the time to inspect the airfilter to find the entire front section of the gasket was rolled off the housing letting in alot of air. No wonder it kept stalling on me!

[elizilla]

Well, this weekend I checked mine and the gasket is missing.  I have ordered a new one.

[Anonymous]

I voted, " No I didn't " because when I changed my filter I noticed the gasket was a bit on the fussy side for fit and skimpy on sealing size, so I was extra careful to put it on right.

[bikeflyer]

dbl aitch,

What in tarnation is "rim grease?"  It's time for me to replace my air filter but I'll be danged if I can find rim grease on my dealer's fluid shelf.

Bikeflyer

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49 Votes but 558 "views". . . . .

Not many "members" but lots of "guests I suppose!

[Peter]

Plenty forum guests.

But still better than the chain poll. One would think that people are more interested. But polls where traditionally not very successful at the rabbitforum.

[Anonymous]

I voted "No, but I'm going to" because I just want to check to be absolutely sure. Trouble is my bike is on the slow ship to the UK, so cannot check it until we are reunited in London.

However, I am almost 100% sure its on (now) because the Unifilter modified foam-filter is fitted and I took a pic for the forum

 

Pic shows gasket fitted I think. But the shop fitted a new standard filter while this filter was being modified by Unifilter. The new one was still in the bike when this pic was taken, and the same shop swapped them over for me a week before I crated the bike. I kept the almost still new suzuki filter as a spare and I just checked - no gasket on it.

So now I know the new filter was in the bike with no gasket - luckely only for 2000km. The old filter still with original gasket and now modified by Unifilter is back in the bike - none too soon.

Skillo

[Peter]

Skillo, I compared with my filter here in my desk. Yes your photo shows the gasket.

[elizilla]

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bikeflyer wrote on 14.03.2006 22:29[/i] dbl aitch, What in tarnation is "rim grease?"  It's time for me to replace my air filter but I'll be danged if I can find rim grease on my dealer's fluid shelf. Bikeflyer

I've been wondering the same thing.  Is he talking about tire lube maybe?  Seems like that would be kinda sloppy.  

I was thinking some silicone spray lube might be good for this, it will make rubber slide easily on plastic and not get all over things.

[greywolf]

Dirt bike riders used axle grease on oiled foam filters back when I was riding off road. It was the only good way to seal the mating surface. A silicone dielectric grease will be safe for rubber surfaces and fill any tiny gaps in mating surfaces. A dry filter system of proper design shouldn't need it though.